If I want to get an album, I'll buy it on vinyl. If it doesn't exist on vinyl, I'll buy the CD. If it doesn't exist on CD, I won't buy it. I'm old fashioned. I can't really explain, but I don't enjoy listening to music, when it comes from my computer ot smartphone.
If I like an album and want to support an artist, I will buy a CD, usually at above the asking price.
Other than that, it is not practical to amass more CDs in this household... ;-)
That said, I do miss proper liner notes with musician credits. This is one of the reasons I generally use Qobuz for streaming full-strength audio. Qobuz also pays artists 10x per stream what their well-known competitiors do.
i've always been surprised that CDs outsell vinyl at my shows - from 2017 to now that has not changed one bit. I'm curious, how many CDs does Edition usually press up for any given album?
I like physical recordings because nobody can track and build analytics around my listening habits. Also you often can't really "own" digital purchases because the fine print usually says they're rentals and account issues / company bankruptcies, etc can remove your access. I do appreciate when digital is thrown in as a bonus with a physical purchase though.
To the specific topic at hand, I don't have a CD player right now, so I've only been buying vinyl. Not for audiophile nerd reasons (CD and digital sound good to my ears too), but that's just where my collection is at now. My buying has slowed down since the early covid years due to space limitations, but I still buy all the autographed records that come out from my favorite artists and certain niches (such as B3 organ records) that I've decided to build a collection in. I sometimes buy autographed CDs at shows when vinyl isn't available even though I can't listen to them :)
Been into vinyl for now 55 odd years and the associated hi-fi addiction. I've purchased CD's in the past,many CD's in fact, simply because for a period, starting around the 90's Jazz recordings stopped being released on vinyl. ECM,for example. So it was more a necessity, if you wanted the music, you purchased the CD. Today we have the vinyl 'resurgence' and many titles,though not all, are released on the black stuff. No interest whatsoever in streaming though my now grown up children swear by it. I'll pass.
Never really got on with vinyl, despite the expensive system, or cassette but am an avid collector of CD's.
Get very disappointed when something I want to buy isn't available on that format and will therefore abandon it as I absolutely hate downloads in any form.
So please do all you can to bring as many CD's as possible to market.
I don’t stream at all, instead I buy all my albums as digital downloads. I like the idea of owning physical media, but hate the idea of having a room full of cd’s or records. Instead, I have my 700 + albums on my music player, which reminds me fondly of my Walkmans and Minidisc players of the past. And I’m very proud of my collection, it’s carefully looked after.
One thing I wish for is more digital albums that are purchased should come with a pdf booklet, the liner notes that you would get with a CD. People buying music should be rewarded with these things, and higher resolution files, as an benefit over streaming.
Largely missing from streaming sources are liner notes and basic discography, credits, photos and the like. So having the vinyl or CD is important for audiophiles and radio DJs at very least. QOBUZ is generally an (the?) outstanding streaming source. But one must look elsewhere, not always successfully, for important recording and artist info. Discogs can be helpful, but not 100 percent, and one must do the research, not necessarily a bad thing as a learning process, and sometimes an inadvertent means to new discovery and previously unknown artistic connections. For people with time, anyway. This discussion also bleeds into how music journalism (including even whether to commission album notes) is ever more devalued in the overall process of making and disseminating compelling new music. So, many reviewers simply paraphrase the one-sheet, which serves no one, least of all the artist.
Vinyl's lovely, but CDs are hugely underrated - great quality, hard to damage, small - and still can have liner notes etc. I'm puzzled that the industry was so keen to call time on them.
Hard to damage? You underestimate the human abilities :) I worked at CD shop for 13 years. Believe me, it takes seconds, people even don't notice how they do that.
In my youth albums were vinyl. I’ve got hundreds of them. I don’t listen to them. CDs? I’ve got thousands and haven’t bought any vinyl for years. Music that I like or am interested in gets bought (sometimes as a download). The Edition albums that I own are all CDs. Most recent Edition purchase? “The Shieling”.
If I want to get an album, I'll buy it on vinyl. If it doesn't exist on vinyl, I'll buy the CD. If it doesn't exist on CD, I won't buy it. I'm old fashioned. I can't really explain, but I don't enjoy listening to music, when it comes from my computer ot smartphone.
That's fair.
If I like an album and want to support an artist, I will buy a CD, usually at above the asking price.
Other than that, it is not practical to amass more CDs in this household... ;-)
That said, I do miss proper liner notes with musician credits. This is one of the reasons I generally use Qobuz for streaming full-strength audio. Qobuz also pays artists 10x per stream what their well-known competitiors do.
Yes - Qobuz and Tidal are the places to be!! on Curation and pay. Have you checked out our playlists there?
i've always been surprised that CDs outsell vinyl at my shows - from 2017 to now that has not changed one bit. I'm curious, how many CDs does Edition usually press up for any given album?
That really depends on the Artist, the audience, the amount of live concerts and the vision and goals for the album.
What short-lead-time and short-run options are there on the wholesale market that don't cost labels an arm and a leg?
Very few if you want quality products - otherwise it becomes false economy.
I like physical recordings because nobody can track and build analytics around my listening habits. Also you often can't really "own" digital purchases because the fine print usually says they're rentals and account issues / company bankruptcies, etc can remove your access. I do appreciate when digital is thrown in as a bonus with a physical purchase though.
To the specific topic at hand, I don't have a CD player right now, so I've only been buying vinyl. Not for audiophile nerd reasons (CD and digital sound good to my ears too), but that's just where my collection is at now. My buying has slowed down since the early covid years due to space limitations, but I still buy all the autographed records that come out from my favorite artists and certain niches (such as B3 organ records) that I've decided to build a collection in. I sometimes buy autographed CDs at shows when vinyl isn't available even though I can't listen to them :)
Been into vinyl for now 55 odd years and the associated hi-fi addiction. I've purchased CD's in the past,many CD's in fact, simply because for a period, starting around the 90's Jazz recordings stopped being released on vinyl. ECM,for example. So it was more a necessity, if you wanted the music, you purchased the CD. Today we have the vinyl 'resurgence' and many titles,though not all, are released on the black stuff. No interest whatsoever in streaming though my now grown up children swear by it. I'll pass.
Never really got on with vinyl, despite the expensive system, or cassette but am an avid collector of CD's.
Get very disappointed when something I want to buy isn't available on that format and will therefore abandon it as I absolutely hate downloads in any form.
So please do all you can to bring as many CD's as possible to market.
I don’t stream at all, instead I buy all my albums as digital downloads. I like the idea of owning physical media, but hate the idea of having a room full of cd’s or records. Instead, I have my 700 + albums on my music player, which reminds me fondly of my Walkmans and Minidisc players of the past. And I’m very proud of my collection, it’s carefully looked after.
One thing I wish for is more digital albums that are purchased should come with a pdf booklet, the liner notes that you would get with a CD. People buying music should be rewarded with these things, and higher resolution files, as an benefit over streaming.
Largely missing from streaming sources are liner notes and basic discography, credits, photos and the like. So having the vinyl or CD is important for audiophiles and radio DJs at very least. QOBUZ is generally an (the?) outstanding streaming source. But one must look elsewhere, not always successfully, for important recording and artist info. Discogs can be helpful, but not 100 percent, and one must do the research, not necessarily a bad thing as a learning process, and sometimes an inadvertent means to new discovery and previously unknown artistic connections. For people with time, anyway. This discussion also bleeds into how music journalism (including even whether to commission album notes) is ever more devalued in the overall process of making and disseminating compelling new music. So, many reviewers simply paraphrase the one-sheet, which serves no one, least of all the artist.
Vinyl's lovely, but CDs are hugely underrated - great quality, hard to damage, small - and still can have liner notes etc. I'm puzzled that the industry was so keen to call time on them.
Hard to damage? You underestimate the human abilities :) I worked at CD shop for 13 years. Believe me, it takes seconds, people even don't notice how they do that.
In my youth albums were vinyl. I’ve got hundreds of them. I don’t listen to them. CDs? I’ve got thousands and haven’t bought any vinyl for years. Music that I like or am interested in gets bought (sometimes as a download). The Edition albums that I own are all CDs. Most recent Edition purchase? “The Shieling”.